Autumn sonata

Autumn sonata

DVD - 2013 | Swedish
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Ingrid Bergman plays a mother who, after forsaking her family for a music career, attempts a reconciliation with her oldest daughter through a night of painful revelation.
Publisher: [United States] : The Criterion Collection, 2013
Edition: Criterion collection
Branch Call Number: DVD FEATURE AUTUM
Characteristics: optical
2 videodiscs (Not rated)(93 min.) : sound, color ; 4 3/4 in
Notes: Special features: New 2K digital film restoration; Introduction by director Ingmar Bergman from 2003; Audio commentary featuring Bergman expert Peter Cowie; The making of "Autumn Sonata, " a three-and-a-half-hour program; New interview with actor Liv Ullmann; A 1981 conversation between actor Ingrid Bergman and critic John Rusell Taylor; Trailer; New English subtitle translation; Plus, a booklet featuring an essay by critic Farran Smith Nehme
Originally released as a motion picture in 1978
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Loge99
Mar 18, 2017

Interesting performance by both Liv Ullmann and Ingrid Bergman. A daughter who has become an emotional cripple, her sister a physical cripple, supposedly due to mother's inability to be a mother. The choice of Op. 28 #2 Chopin prelude was made, likely because it is one of the most dissonant preludes of the opus and also it is very short. We hear it twice. But it poses the emotional content of the daughter as opposed to the objective view of the mother. The final letter scene is a bit of a let-down....resolved by a letter???

NightGoat72 Mar 12, 2014

The drama gets a little too dramatic for my liking toward the end. I would have preferred that it remained subtler and more understated.

That said, the Chopin prelude scene is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in a movie.

Also, I just want to say that I very much enjoy watching a good Bergman movie, lukasevansherman! I think there is too much genuine depth and insight for them to ever feel "oppressive." But I totally understand what you mean - I feel what you're saying about Tarkovsky movies. I mean, do fans of that guy actually ENJOY sitting down and watching those things? Hard to believe, haha.

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lukasevansherman
Dec 24, 2013

English title: "Autumn Sonata." I'm a pretty devoted cinephile, but I have to ask, does anybody actually enjoy Bergman? Don't get me wrong, I admire him a great deal and would never dispute his influence, but other than "Smiles of a Summer Night," I don't think I've ever enjoyed watching one of his films. But I doubt I'm supposed to. This is one of his later chamber dramas ("After the Rehearsal," "Cries & Whispers") and is notable as his only film with another iconic Swede, Ingrid Bergman. Essentially a long showdown between Bergman and daughter Liv Ullman, this is almost unbearably intense and intimate. The performances are excellent, as is longtime Bergman collaborator Sven Nykvist's cinematography, but it's a difficult, oppressive experience.

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Monolith
Nov 04, 2012

To preface my comment, I'll say that my introduction to Ingmar Bergman's work was 1966's "Persona", which I detested. I thought it was utter nonsense, and I still do. This film, conversely, was magnificent. Real; concrete; human. Irreconcilable differences between mother and daughter, and the irreparable ensuing emotional damage. Some people just shouldn't have children. Incredibly powerful dialogue, vitriolic at times, and exceptionally moving performances by both leading ladies. I think Ingmar matured considerably with this piece. It struck a chord with my relationship with my late father. But, as they say, "To err is human -- to forgive, divine."

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Ron@Ottawa
Sep 05, 2012

A typical Bergman film portraying conflict between a career-orient mother and her sensitive daughter, now grown up. A reunion after many years of separation triggered an avalanche of emotion from both parties. A great film of character study and a signature Bergman film.

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booklover717
Aug 19, 2011

Excellent performances ...

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Monolith
Nov 05, 2012

Viktor (of Eva): "This is the first of her books. I like it so much. She has written: "One must learn to live. I practice every day. My biggest obstacle is I don't know who I am. I grope blindly. If anyone loves me as I am, I may dare at last to look at myself. For me, that possibility is fairly remote." "

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Monolith
Nov 05, 2012

Charlotte: "...All this hatred! Why have you never said anything?" Eva: "Because you never listen. You're a goddamn escapist. You're emotionally crippled. In actual fact, you detest me and Helena. You're shut up inside yourself, and always stand in your own light. I loved you, but you thought I was disgusting, and stupid, and a failure. You managed to injure me for life, just as you are injured. All that was sensitive and delicate, you attacked. All that was alive, you tried to smother. You talk of my hatred. Your hatred was no less. Your hatred is no less. I was little and malleable and loving. You bound me because you wanted my love, just as you want everyone else's love. I was utterly at your mercy. It was all done in the name of love."

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Nov 05, 2012

Eva (to Charlotte): "...You kept saying you loved me and Papa and Helena. And you were an expert at love's intonations and gestures. People like you are a menace. You should be locked away and rendered harmless. A mother and a daughter. What a terrible combination of feelings and confusion and destruction. Everything is possible and done in the name of love and solicitude. The mother's injuries are to be handed down to the daughter. The mother's failures are to be paid for by the daughter. The mother's unhappiness is to be the daughter's unhappiness. It's as if the umbilical cord had never been cut. Is it so? Is the daughter's misfortune the mother's triumph? Is my grief your secret pleasure?"

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